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have you ever seen my wolf blitzer bobble head? >> i have seen, i've been waiting for one as a gift. >> there's only one. it's a limited edition. wolf blitzer bobble head. >> now, you see how important i am to wolf. >> only one. that's it for me. thanks very much. that's it for kate as well. erin burnett "outfront" getting erin burnett "outfront" getting regard to start right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com next, iran's president ahminedjad calls for the elimination of israel, but is it to blame for rising tensions? and damage control at the u.n. over the death of the american ambassador. the president of the united states noticeably nowhere to be seen and a brawl breaks out at a plant that makes apple product, forcing it to shut down. so, what's it going to mean for your new iphone? let's go "outfront."
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, iran slaps israel. iran's president ahminedjad is on american soil tonight and i was with him today. he was smiling, making joke, very relaxed as he took questions from a group of journalists at his hotel. he kept asking us to exchange views. not just ask questions. and in his answers, he called israel's threats to attack iran's nuclear program, in his words, a blip on the radar screen. >> translator: principally, we do not take seriously what the scientists ta say in threatening iran. >> so it's hard to imagine a more clear bow off than that, right? until you hear this. >> translator: they have been ok pieing those territories for the last 60 to 70 years with the support of force of the westerners. they have no roots there in history. iran is a vast, great country that has been as such for
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thousands of years. again, they do not even enter the equation for iran. zpl well, it isn't just israel either. ahminedjad said he takes no one seriously who questions iran's claims that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes. >> translator: everyone knows dha iran is not seek iing a nuclear bomb or a nuclear weapon and so unfortunately, the scene resembles that more of a comedy show than anything else. >> a comedy show. maybe this would be funny if it weren't the real world we all live in. a situation that could all end in war. the national security counsel spokesperson responded saying president ahminedjad's comments are disgusting, offensive and outrageous. they underscore again why america's commitment to the security of israel must be unshakable and why the world must hold iran accountable.
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now, ahminedjad will address the united nations and the world in a speech on wednesday. that happens to be the holiest day on the juwish calendar. he's been aggressive on the need to stop iran's nuclear ambition. he says iran will be 90% to a bomb in six months. a bomb he says will hurt america. >> all the things you see now in these storming the american embassy is what you'll see with a regime with atomic bombs. >> so, what's causing this escalation? two words. the united states. specifically the election battle between these two men. either mitt romney or barack obama will be the one to decide on the war or peace question. prime minister netanyahu seems to be betting on romney. romney has known him for 35 years and i even saw one of mitt romney's books on netanyahu's
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study shelf in jerusalem. he even appears in a pro romney ad in florida. >> the fact is, that every day that passes, iran gets closer and closer to nuclear bombs. >> right now, the candidates are duelling over how to handle the conflict. >> the president's decision not to meet would be with netanyahu, prime minister of israel, when the prime minister is here is a mistake. >> so, you know, governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> tonight, the israeli response to iran "outfront." earlier, i spoke with israel's council general in new york and asked him for his reaction to ahminedjad's comments. >> well, i think it's the wrong framing to look at it as you know, iran versus israel. this is a much larger issue. it's the world, it's the west
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versus iran. i think that what bothers them, what really threatens them is everything that we stand for. not necessarily the things that we do and i say we, i mean the united states, israel, the rest of the western civilization. and they're being threatened by all the things we cherish and value. like freedom of speech and women's rights and so on and so forth. this is really what bothers them. i think israel is the excuse. >> he was very clear to say several times, we don't take seriously. he never uses the world israel. the threat of the zionists who attack iran's nuclear program. there is a lot of talk about whether the talk out of netanyahu is more bluster. is there some truth to that is this. >> look, there is no question that our 193 member at the united nations, there's only one member, iran, that is openly
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calling for the destruction of another member. israel. there's only one member openly denying the holocaust. only one member of the united nations constantly instigating violence all over the world. from latin america through north africa through central asia and certainly in the middle east. for all those reasons and many more, the world simply cannot and should not tolerate the very notion of iran becoming nuclear. >> do you ever feel conflicted when you look at iran, there's been a series on the holocaust, television series that aired in iran. there is a small jewish community there. do you ever feel conflicted at all in that sometimes their actions in that way, don't appear to be anti-jewish. >> i think the world has an
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issue with the on going -- i think what they're doing is irresponsible and reckless. the e question of whether we can trust the iranian, why should we take the risk? we've seen this before. they mean what they say and they say what they mean. and they're behind a very long string of attacks against israeli and jewish all over the world. only recently in bulgaria, before that, we had to deal with numerous attempts to carry out attacks against israeli and juish targets in recent years. >> when you say they mean what they say and they say what they mean. you're referring to the terror attacks. another thing we just heard president ahminedjad say is everyone knows iran is is not seeking a nuclear bomb or weapon. he says it again and again an again and the question, however large or small it may be over whether that is true, is why at least the united states hasn't taken more action. but israel knows? >> i think it's not, you know,
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it's not by israel. i mean, you have to look at the reports compiled by the international community. the most recent report actually admitted to the fact that iran's been lying all those years and they are indeed attempting to achieve military nuclear capabilities. >> the iea report. >> exactly. let me remind viewers that once iran becomes nuclear, they do not only enter the so-called zone of immunity, but they will spark immediately a regional nuclear arms race and we may end up with terrorists organizations with access to nuclear devices. this is ultimately change the way we live. this will change the way we travel. this would ultimately change the way we do business and we have to think about that. nuclear iran will change everything in a very fundamental way. >> do you feel the united states understands that? i mean, there's something like a
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tough statement we heard out of the national security counsel, but then the fact that the u.s. has failed to act. mr. netanyahu, who has been frustrated by that on the part at least of the president of the united states. >> well, certainly, you know, i have no desire to enter this political mine field, especially in the midst of this -- >> and it is a mine field. >> national election season. i can just say broadly that we've been working very closely with this administration on this issue and many other issues. the level and the scope of the cooperation between the two security establishments is unprecedented and sometimes among friends, you can have disagreements as we've had. >> we've heard about some of them. they've been loud and angry. >> it's perfectly understandable and legitimate. but by and large, the united states is israel's best friend, best ally and would like it to say that way. >> well, the u.s. is doing damage control today at the u.n.
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following a death of the u.s. ambassador and mitt romney levels new criticism. and early voting is underway. millions of americans are going to be making their election day picks now, well before election day. who is going to benefit? this could turn the whole race. and what is going on with american airlines? hundreds of flights canceled. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future. ♪
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to make a family. at new york life, everything we do is to help you keep good going. our second story, diplomatic damage control. today at the u.n. general
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assembly in new york, hillary clinton met with leaders of four countries where anti-american protests have broken out. libya, where ambassador stevens and three other americans were killed. while secretary clinton met with world leaders, president obama was noticeably absent. he scheduled no one-on-one meetings today with foreign officials. mitt romney launched a new and aggressive attack on comments the president made to 60 minutes in which he calleded the recent unrest in the middle east, bumps in the road. >> bumps in the road, we had an ambassador assassinated. these are not bumps in the road. these are human lives. these are developments we do not want to see. >> is the criticism fair game or is it as the white house called it, desperate and offensive? "outfront" tonight, colin call, obama's foreign policy spokesman and surrogate and former deputy assistant for the middle east. bumps in the road does seem like an awkward choice of words given by three americans and the
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ambassador were killed, doesn't it? >> the president's initial response to events in the region were to express our outrage, condolences, to make it clear those responsible for this will be brought to justice. it was governor romney whose first impulse was to politicize the deaths. i think the question that president obama was asked on 60 minutes was a broader question about trends in the middle east and i think what he said was true. the process in the middle east like it has been everywhere in the world throughout history, is a long and winding road and that it has a lot of bumps and tribulations in it. and that we can't expect countries that lived under decades of dictatorship to move towards jeff son overnight. >> in the news cycle we're in, anyone can say words, mitt romney referred to his own
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poorly chosen words, but it is hard when ever single word is going to be criticized. but what about the situation about how the obama administration handled this? we have learned at cnn that the u.s. consulate in benghazi did not meet standard u.s. consulate security requirements. this is obviously a rather damming thing to be discovering at this point to discover what happened there. jon huntsman told me he thinks consulates there who are not beefed up on security, shouldn't the administration be respond tog that? >> i think the administration is responding to it. the state department goes to regular security proceed yurs all over the world and updates them to take into account how the situation on the ground changes. i spent a lot of time in iraq and as we were transition, we looked closely at the security procedures at our consulates and
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embassies, so i expect in the aftermath of these incidents, there will be another review and steps will be taken to improve security where needed. >> let's talk about libya and the mixed messages. it still seems confusing to me. on the 16th of september, our ambassador called the attacks spontaneous. jay carney agreed. then called it a terrorist attack and today during a taping for the view, the president said it wasn't just a mob action. after 13 days, shouldn't be know, especially given the libyan government has been very consistent from the beginning in saying this was preplanned. >> i think there's a lot of conflicting evidence. i'm not privy to classified information on this. even if i was, i guess i couldn't tell you about it. my sense is that this was a spontaneous event, that some actors took advantage of. to commit an act of terrorism. now, i think we're still sorting through how much was preplanned, but clearly, they took advantage
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of a protest to do this. >> or they could have ignited the protest x right? and had everything planned. i guess we don't know. i still remain a little confused about that, but i wanted to ask you one other thing and that is also on "the view" when the president was talking there, he talked about the anti-islamic film and he said i want to quote him here. the best way to marginalize that kind of speech in the movie is to ignore it. yet calling the white house is spending $75 million to run an ad on prime time pakistani television, seven plus million dollars of an ad buy in the u.s. in which he and the secretary of state say they denounce announce the movie. >> we made clear from the beginning we're going the stand up to our values and what's dift in this parking lt of the world don't have a lot of experience with films that aren't giving the the blessing of the state.
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in this case, it's hard to make the argument that this was a film not endorsed by the united states government. i think the public service advertisements that are there, just to make clear that while we have freedom of speech, this wasn't a film the u.s. government endorsed. i think that's the right approach. >> you know, when the highest hate of america and the lowest like of america in the world and then we take that money to be well spent? >> we have an interest in making clear that while we stand up for our values and free speech, the u.s. government did not endorse this film. it's not a reaction the u.s. policy, it's a reaction to a particular set of events in this film and i think we're trying to create some distance. >> thank you very much. appreciate you taking the time. next, what is the legal definition of mother hood. a woman going to court to keep the child that she gave birth to and a strong warning from the royal health organization about another virus. this one is in the same class that causes sars.
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the company that makes the iphone for apple was forced to
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suspend production today and the reason apparently, the employees were fighting. and according to police reports, 2,000 employees were involved in a brawl at one of the facilities dormitories last night. the the fight resulted in broken windows, a fire and 40 people that actually needed medical aattention. it took 5,000 police officers almost four hours to finally restore order. now, according to analysts, the plant's shutdown shouldn't really affect the supply line because of the way the factory spreads out its manufacturing, so you'll be able to get your apple product even though no doubt thinking about those working conditions might be something that crosses your mind and that brings us to tonight's number. 5 million. that's the number of iphones apple sold this weekend. while this broke the record of 4 million, it was a million less than analysts were expecting. you may think, ths crazy, they must be failing. the 5 million figure only
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includes sells from apple and online orders. what it does not include are early orders from apple's online store and that number's expected to be in the millions, so it could come out well above. we're not sure. but apple has just barely scratched the surface when it comes to sales. on friday, the iphone 5s goes on sale in 22 more countries and 100 more by the end of the year and analysts expect apple to sell 45 million of the phones in the december quarter alone. a lot of people buying them for christmas, whatever it might be and analysts say that if apple can achieve that, the stop keeps going up. here's what the bottom line might be. that apple could be the first company ever in the yit, in the world, to valued at a trillion dollars. some people say bubble. some just say wow, i want to bite of that apple. millions of voters will have the opportunity to cast their vote before november 6th. ea
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welcome back. the second half of "outfront," we start the second half of our show with stories we care about where we focus on our reporting from 2 front lines and first, a european court has ruled that r radical muslim clerk can be extradited to the united states from great britain. he faces 11 charges in the u.s. including conspireing in 1999 to set up an islamic jihad training carp camp in oregon. he argued he would face degrading treatment in a u.s. prison. the human rights courts di agreed and cleared the way for four others to be extradited. has sent a letter to the u.n. security counsel requesting authorization for military force to help dislodge the armed islamist groups in the northern part of the country.
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french foreign minister says france would provide lodgist cal support. we'll have an interview with the mall yan prime minister and all of those weapons from libya that are not fuelling the al-qaeda conflict. google shares closing at a new record high. previous record was just blow that. an analyst for citigroup says it could go to $850. previous was 740. facebook did not get the love today. shares were down %. down to $20.79. after a report came out negative on the stock saying it could go down as low as $15 a share. in a speech, christine lagarde urged policymakers to step up and make clear what they're going to do to help the economy. blaming uncertainty over policy for the continued crisis.
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>> the number of factors are weighing the global economy down. at the center of them, clearly we see uncertainty. and certainty about what policymakers can and will deliver on their promises and this is having real effects. increasing divergence and a tepid recovery in the united states. >> she also called the cliff a threat. it's been 417 days since the u.s. lost its top create rating. what are we doing to get it back? congress is doing nothing because they're not around. our third story, don't call it election day because it's now election days. all just a load of slight inaccuracy. chances are, you can vote now. by the end of this month, some voter frs 30 states are going to be able to cast their ballots in
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the presidential election. you don't even have to prove you're going to be out of town. voters in all but two of the battleground states are going to be able to cast their ballots without an excuse autoall. don't think you're goupg to feel like getting up early on election day. 40% of voters are expected to vote early this year. up from 33% last time and 15% in the year 2000. which side benefits more and how will it impact what happens on the battlefield? john avalon is with me, david frum, former speech writer for george w. bush and bill burton, cofounder super pac for president obama priorities usa. great to see you. appreciate it. john avalon, who's the winner? >> change the rules, you change the game. the obama campaign's been focused on high voter outreach. the romney camp says they're responding in kind. the fact romney and republicans have done better with older voters might give them an edge on early voting.
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but when they tell reporters they're not targeting a specific demographic, that does give a warning sign. it's not just election day. it's election weeks and so right now the voting day and every lost vote for romney is not good. >> how important is is this early voting for you when you make that decision on where to spend money? >> early voting is pretty important and when you consider the fact that this places like north carolina, people are voting and can vote every day and other places like nevada, speak are starting to go to the polls. the ground game really matters and the president's put a lot into the infrastructure to make sure the campaign is set up in field offices across the country. but the other thing that matters is what's happened in the news from day-to-day and when you look at the miserable couple of weeks mitt romney has had, you can't imagine that's helping his early voting effort. >> david frum, 40% of people
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could be voting early. that is a stunning statistic. most people would be shocked, at least i am. that's nearly half of the country. so is this race basically going to be decided before november? >> i doubt it. early voter rs motivated and older. that means they're going to be in this cycle, probably most to the republicans. also a lot of military voters. again, that's a republican group. but as the country becomes more and more divided, we are battling the two parties over fewer an fewer people and those people are not going to be voting early because they're not so motivated and old. >> so, bill, you think it's going to lean republican? we were talking about this today and some said, no, no, no, it might lean democratic. go out and vote now, get it done, that way it's behind you. >> i think it's the campaign that benefits is the campaign that has the better infrastructure on the ground that can capture the energy that there is. especially among the people on their side, so i think that you
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know, the president in 2008 had this huge expansive ground game that was able to do better than you've seen in a presidential election before. this time, the proof will be in the pudding, but i have a hard time believing the president doesn't have a pretty good ground game, able to capture those voters feeling great about his campaign. >> he's got acts. where you can get one and know everyone in your neighborhood and their political party and the last things they bought on drugstore.com. i made that part up. >> which is very cool, but the idea it's all going to come down to some 72-hour gotb effort, the whole point is it's not going to do that. you've got 40% of americans voting, every day counts. every ad counts. a late-inning push isn't going to have to same impact. the technology is great and the old ground muscle is fun to flex. >> i know. just sad because i love the
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dewey defeats truman. one of the big issues and why the president appeared on "the view," it's going to air tomorrow. david, he was there. he loves it. he loves sitting on that couch. obviously wants to court women. i don't know why. they appear to already love him. the latest poll, up 19 points among women. is it a waste of time for him to be sitting down with the ladies instead of meeting with world lead es? >> startling that he would not use this opportunity to meet with world leaders. he turned down benjamin netanyahu, president morsi. and it is a strange thing that he has time to do this electioneering. talking about 50% plus a little bit of the population, i don't think it makes sense to talk
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about them as block. >> fair point. >> married women vote differently than single. older vote differently from younger women and for republicans, the number to track is how do republicans perform among married women. if they fall below 50%, they're in a lot of trouble. one of the challenge ss that the percentages of women who are married is shrinking as the baby boom ages and as baby boom wives outlive baby boom husbands. >> final question to you and i wanted to give you a chance to weigh in. if you were advising and i know you're not, but would you say look, you're going fine among women. take this opportunity to sit down with the world leaders and get those pictures of yourself looking presidential that he can't have at that you are able to get. why isn't he doing it? >> well, i'm not going speak to why the president did or didn't. don't presuppose to know more
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about our foreign policy than the folks at the white house do. but the president looks more presidential every day. it's because when he's talking about issues that impact our national security and our role in the global community, he does it with so much more command of the issues than mitt romney can hope to muster that i think he's doing that job every single day just by doing his job. >> you just did your job, dodging my question and giving an answer you believe in. speaking of women, our fourth story is debating the definition of mother hood in a courtroom. the 48-year-old cindy close says she and her friend, marvin mcmurray, agreed to have a child together so they used his sperm and donated eggs. close became pregnant with twins through invie troe fertilization, but after they were born, close says mcmurray revealed he was gay, told her she was just a surrogate and
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demanded custody of the children. >> cindy says she made the biggest decision of her life without once thinking she needed to legally protect herself. we're leaning a lot just on faith and trust. >> what has that cost you? >> it has cost me my heart. my children. >> in july, cindy close gave birth to twins. a boy and a girl. but the new single mom never got to take them home. they are not the center of a legal battle in texas, challenging the definition of a mother. >> i'm their mother because i love them. i love them. it's no different than someone who adopted a child. love is what it takes to be a
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mom. biology doesn't -- in this case, she was using eggs from an anonymous donor and sperm from a long time friend who approached her with a surprising question. >> basically, he said what would you think about being a married stay at home mom and financially securing your own home. just think of it. that's what he said to me. that would be the end of this discussion. >> it might have sounded like a proposal, but it wasn't. cindy says her friend wanted them to be coparents, living apart, but raising the children together. cindy said she believed the children would live with her, until the day she got the shock of her life. when did you find out he was gay? >> the day my children were born. >> what did you do? >> it was horrible. i cried. trz and i told him -- he's doing to steal my babies and i don't know what to do.
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that's what i did. >> while the children were still in the hospital, court documents show their biological father asked the court to declare him the sole parent. org i orging arguing cindy close was not the mother, not genetically related and her role was that of a surrogate. the the children now live at his partners house. neither the father nor his attorney agreed to comment. >> my children are involved, they're minors and we're in litigation. >> but you don't think miss close should have any relations with your children. >> we're not going to give any comments at this time. >> and the bitter court battle has begun with the potential of shaping the legal definition of a mother. >> does cindy close get to see her children at all? those scenes of her by the crib were very moving. has she had the opportunity to see them since they were born? >> she gets to see them two hours a day, but the children
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are being kept at the house that belongs to the father's partner. she says it's very awkward for her to go over there, but she has two hours a day with the children. she can't take them anywhere, it's just to stay in the nursery. >> texas does not allow same-sex marriage, so does this make it more complicated as the father tries to keep sole custody? >> that argument really hasn't come up. it hasn't been relevant to anything we've heard in court so far. remember, the father is the biological father of these children. that is not in dispute. what is is cindy close's relationship to those children. was she a surrogate or legally the mother. >> thank you very much. a lot of people thinking. the world health organization has issued an alert about a new virus related to sars and then why marco rubio is so frustrated with american airlines and why you might be, too. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time,
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and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there.
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and we begin tonight in london where a man is in critical condition with an unknown virus that is related to the deadly sars infection.
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the world health organization has issued a global alert. i asked her if she knows how he even contracted the virus. >> erin, authorities here do not know exactly how or where the man contracted this virus. all we know is that a qatari man is in critical condition with a corona virus, a virus that causes the common cold and also, sars. it doesn't just cause severe respiratory illness, it seems to cause kidney failure, now, fortunately, it doesn't seem to spread as quickly, but this is something medical authorities are still trying to figure out. what they do know is that a second patient was diagnosed in june with that virus. that patient died. what authorities are looking at now is to see if these two pashts were in any way connected or how these two may have contracted that virus. that may help authorities to
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figure out whether this virus is spreading or much more widespread. >> thanks very much. a pretty fightening story there, but now, we go to nepal where three mountain climbers are missing after an avalanche. at least eight were killed, possibly more. but it is the worst disaster in nepal in nearly two decades. >> on the second day of the search and rescue mission, nepali officials tell us eight bodies have been recovered so far. most are european nationals. one is nepaly and 21 others have been rescued and are undergoing treatment. we spoke to helicopter companies who have been conducting these search and rescue missions for the past few days and they were telling us they have not been instructed to go back and find
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these missing people. this is the beginning of the main climbing season. it's becoming an increasingly popular activity, especially for adventurists tourists, but this is a grim reminder of how dangerous that can be. >> hey, anderson. up on "ac 360" the terror attack in benghazi on 9/11 has opened the door about security, about government transparency and lastly about us, about the reporting on this program and on cnn, reporting based in part on the ambassador's journal which cnn discovered in the rubble three days after the attack. ahead on the program tonight, how this weekend, the state department calls cnn's handling of the journal disgusting and indefensible. we'll deal with that head-on tonight. full frartransparency. also, keeping them honest in a story you might remember, a story that launched a senate investigation. a veterans charity, dvnf that
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has, as far as we can tell, given very little direct donations to disabled veterans, despite raising tens of millions of dollars. its chief fund-raising company is now under investigation in three states. drew griffin has been on the money trail from the beginning and joins me with that update. those stories and tonight's "ridiculist" at the top of the hour. >> see you in a few moments. now our fifth story. flight cancellations on the rise but there's a contract dispute with american airlines pilots that could be to blame. american has canceled at least 570 flights in the past week. this is frustrating to people around the country, including senator marco rubio, who took to twitter to vent his frustration. what else you going to do when you're sitting there waiting? every american flight i've been on this week has been two hours late or canceled. this one, already one hour delayed. it's a bankrupt airline. they canceled 105 flights today, 76 of those were quote, unquote, preplanned. difficult word to use in this country right now. that means they planned it ahead. pilot sick leave may be partially to blame, up more than 20% this year as the airline and
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the union fight over benefits. george is out front. good to see you. this has really affected american. no question, anyone out there would have experienced it. half their planes are late and the rest of the industry not even close. >> right. the other half of the industry, all major airlines, 86% on time versus 49% for american over the last week. the pilots are angry. the airline employees in general are as well. it's not only their fault. let's face it, the unions are to blame, the government's to blame for our broken air traffic control system. we need a next-gen system. we were talking about how it's much better in europe. one reason is they have a better air traffic control system. >> you're saying this is something we never invested in? >> right. it costs the airlines money because they can't fly their planes close enough and that means they can't pay their employees enough. i was on a delta flight just the other day and my flight attendant was a model. i saw her in the american
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express ad in my magazine. he has to work as a model in order to survive in this industry. >> wow. she must love her job. >> she doesn't love her job. >> you got to see the woman we always see doing the announcements on tv, you saw her in the flesh? shee she's not a bot? >> airline employees -- >> we always debate that. we're talking about the same woman. very beautiful woman. okay. sorry, everybody. i know that was a bit of a detour. what's going to happen with american? i always wonder this. we have airlines in this country constantly cycling in and out of bankruptcy. maybe we don't need so many of them. >> we don't. we have a lot of airlines. american will merge with us airways and be a stronger airline. if that causes them to have one fewer airline, basically, jetblue will jump in, spirit will jump in, we have frontier, we have a lot of airlines still in this country that can fill the gap. i think air fares are really going to remain where they are.
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the main point is that airline employees who have given back a lot -- >> they have. they work hard hours. i overhear them talking about how they sleep in bunk beds in random places. these people are working very, very hard for very little money. >> should we avoid american airlines? if you have to get there for uncle harry's funeral, yes, i would definitely. >> all right. just a final question. what do we need to do to have flying in america become a better prospect for people flying like it is in europe? my experience is the worst it gets, this country. >> we have to have a better air traffic control system, we have to have consolidation in the industry so airlines can make a profit. basically, the air traffic control system is the main thing that's keeping us from competing with other carriers in europe. >> thank you very much. learned a lot. not least of which is that that delta woman is real. all right. next, a new ad campaign that seems like it's straight out of
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so twitter's a great way to stay current. one of the more entertaining feeds that i follow is an
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account operated by anonymous, the activist group. what makes their feed so interesting, you never know what you're going to get, particularly when you click through on one of their links. today they posted a link to this picture. a computer generated mockup of a micro-air vehicle in the shape of a mosquito. just take a look at that. it's a pretty beautiful thing. according to descriptions we found online, this particular device would allow the user to draw blood, take dna samples or insert devices under the skin of a target. devices. gps devices. typically, this didn't exist yet but a lot of people think the u.s. government is currently developing these little drones. but how close are we to something like this? is it really just science fiction or is there more to it? is it the government we have to worry about? because after i saw this picture we heard about a creepy new british ad campaign from the candy company, nestle. the nestle "we will find you" promotion has the company putting gps trackers in six of

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